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News from and Opinions on the Saturday Afternoon Evan Alaska Conference Call

News from and Opinions on the Saturday Afternoon Evan Alaska Conference Call.

I was unable to attend the Saturday afternoon teleconference as something personal came up. I did listen to some of the recording, but for some reason I was not able to rewind it (possibly an issue with my phone) as I had previously done, so transcription was not feasible. What I can say is that there are no major updates and we only have two days left to lobby Ron Paul. If I come across a link of the recording, I will post it. Until then, you can listen to it by dialing 559-726-1299 and then then 811476#, which is the access code. If you are serious about this effort, please send an email to Ron Paul through his house.gov contact form, telling him you want him to at least consider contacting the Libertarian Party about being Gary Johnson’s running mate. And contrary to what you may have heard, it is NOT too late, and ballot access would not be lost in very many states, or any at all if any law suits are won. Nor is a write-in candidacy viable unless Richard Gilbert wins his latest case, which to my knowledge has not even been filed yet. If it is filed Monday, he has five to six weeks to win it and organize a write-in campaign. That’s all fine and good, but on the other hand, the possibility of drafting Ron Paul to the Libertarian ticket has even less time to succeed, which is why if you want Ron Paul to run on at least some ticket, it should be the primary focus, at least until Monday the 17th, by which time it will likely no longer be possible for the LP to do the legwork in enough states, both on the party and on the election level, to change their ballot, as the first ballots ship out September 22nd. If this effort fails, it will not be because it was not viable, as some have erroneously (I can prove that, by the way) been saying since it was first brought up, but because they mistakenly thought other efforts (such as the Richard Gilbert case) were more viable. Or because they stubbornly refused to see Ron on the bottom of the ticket, even if they thought it was viable. Or because they timorously preferred being shrinking violets over actually getting 15% for Gary, which is the only way he can win, and without which there is no real reason to support a Gary Johnson ticket over a Ron Paul write-in, unless perhaps you prefer him to Ron Paul on the issues, which is a perfectly fine reason, but does not reflect even half of his current support, let alone a tenth of the support he needs to win. The only reason for people who prefer Ron Paul to vote for Gary Johnson if this does not happen will be because it counts more, not because he has a chance of winning. Some will think that’s a good enough reason, others, perhaps more, will not. So you see, not only was it viable to get Ron Paul on the ticket, it may have been necessary. But rest assured, if this does not go through, and I expect it won’t, there is still the possibility of a cabinet position or an endorsement. That will likely be the focus of this blog starting in the next few days. It is curious and unfortunate that as the likelihood increases on the scale of our options, the enthusiasm decreases exponentially. I won’t go so far as to say that this is a detrimental characteristic of the Liberty movement, as its opposite would surely play into the status quo’s hands, and make us the worst compromisers.

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News from and Opinions on the Saturday Afternoon Evan Alaska Conference Call

I was unable to attend the Saturday afternoon teleconference as something personal came up. I did listen to some of the recording, but for some reason I was not able to rewind it (possibly an issue with my phone) as I had previously done, so transcription was not feasible. What I can say is that there are no major updates and we only have two days left to lobby Ron Paul. If I come across a link of the recording, I will post it. Until then, you can listen to it by dialing 559-726-1299 and then then 811476#, which is the access code. If you are serious about this effort, please send an email to Ron Paul through his house.gov contact form, telling him you want him to at least consider contacting the Libertarian Party about being Gary Johnson’s running mate. And contrary to what you may have heard, it is NOT too late, and ballot access would not be lost in very many states, or any at all if any law suits are won. Nor is a write-in candidacy viable unless Richard Gilbert wins his latest case, which to my knowledge has not even been filed yet. If it is filed Monday, he has five to six weeks to win it and organize a write-in campaign. That’s all fine and good, but on the other hand, the possibility of drafting Ron Paul to the Libertarian ticket has even less time to succeed, which is why if you want Ron Paul to run on at least some ticket, it should be the primary focus, at least until Monday the 17th, by which time it will likely no longer be possible for the LP to do the legwork in enough states, both on the party and on the election level, to change their ballot, as the first ballots ship out September 22nd. If this effort fails, it will not be because it was not viable, as some have erroneously (I can prove that, by the way) been saying since it was first brought up, but because they mistakenly thought other efforts (such as the Richard Gilbert case) were more viable. Or because they stubbornly refused to see Ron on the bottom of the ticket, even if they thought it was viable. Or because they timorously preferred being shrinking violets over actually getting 15% for Gary, which is the only way he can win, and without which there is no real reason to support a Gary Johnson ticket over a Ron Paul write-in, unless perhaps you prefer him to Ron Paul on the issues, which is a perfectly fine reason, but does not reflect even half of his current support, let alone a tenth of the support he needs to win. The only reason for people who prefer Ron Paul to vote for Gary Johnson if this does not happen will be because it counts more, not because he has a chance of winning. Some will think that’s a good enough reason, others, perhaps more, will not. So you see, not only was it viable to get Ron Paul on the ticket, it may have been necessary. But rest assured, if this does not go through, and I expect it won’t, there is still the possibility of a cabinet position or an endorsement. That will likely be the focus of this blog starting in the next few days. It is curious and unfortunate that as the likelihood increases on the scale of our options, the enthusiasm decreases exponentially. I won’t go so far as to say that this is a detrimental characteristic of the Liberty movement, as its opposite would surely play into the status quo’s hands, and make us the worst compromisers.

To All the Factions Here on Daily Paul

To All the Factions Here on Daily Paul.

This is also posted here.

To those planning on voting for Johnson:

Gary Johnson can not get elected unless he gets into the debates. He can not get into the debates unless he gets 15% in three nation-wide polls. He can not reach 15% for a long enough period of time to span three separate polls unless he includes Ron Paul on his team or Ron Paul powerfully endorses him. I do not think either of these things will happen unless we continue to lobby Doctor Paul, Governor Johnson, Judge Gray, the Libertarian Party, and our friends who support Ron Paul or Gary Johnson, even if it means convincing them to change their minds. It is true that the Libertarian Presidential ticket could lose ballot access in a few states for just changing its Vice Presidential nominee. But the amount of support adding Ron Paul to the ticket could bring could offset this, especially if Gary Johnson made it into the debates. Additionally, lost ballot access need not follow, as a legal battle could end in the tickets favor. The Libertarian Party can not hold another convention, and thus may not be able to amend their by laws or pick another running mate, but there is one loophole in its bylaws that could allow them to change their Vice Presidential Pick. It would ultimately be up to the chair whether utilization of this loophole would stand.

To those planning on writing in Paul:

A Paul write-in will only have an impact if Richard Gilbert of Lawyers for Ron Paul wins his case to have states comply with his understanding of the Voting Rights Act, which is that anti-write-in laws are in violation. If he succeeds in doing this, I will be the first to congratulate his efforts and promote a write-in candidacy.

To those who would vote for a hypothetical JohnsonPaul if it were switched to a real PaulJohnson:

Many states have sore-loser laws meaning that Ron Paul can not run at the top of a ticket because he was in the Republican Primary and lost (albeit through the cheating of the Romney team and other assorted establishment cabals). I personally would favor a Ron Paul Gary Johnson ticket over a Gary Johnson Ron Paul ticket, with good reason. But this would cause several law suits. The ones won would be costly, perhaps counter-productive, and the ones lost would result in loss of ballot access.

To everyone:

There is only until about Monday the 17th to lobby Ron Paul to contact the Libertarian Party about his intentions to join their ticket. This idea has been well-received by high-ranking Libertarian Party officials on the state, national, and campaign levels. They are somewhat indecisive to be sure, and though they will try to make this work if Ron Paul contacts them, they make no promises, and the likelihood of a GJ/RP ticket happening decreases with each passing day.

To All the Factions Here on Daily Paul

This is also posted here.

To those planning on voting for Johnson:

Gary Johnson can not get elected unless he gets into the debates. He can not get into the debates unless he gets 15% in three nation-wide polls. He can not reach 15% for a long enough period of time to span three separate polls unless he includes Ron Paul on his team or Ron Paul powerfully endorses him. I do not think either of these things will happen unless we continue to lobby Doctor Paul, Governor Johnson, Judge Gray, the Libertarian Party, and our friends who support Ron Paul or Gary Johnson, even if it means convincing them to change their minds. It is true that the Libertarian Presidential ticket could lose ballot access in a few states for just changing its Vice Presidential nominee. But the amount of support adding Ron Paul to the ticket could bring could offset this, especially if Gary Johnson made it into the debates. Additionally, lost ballot access need not follow, as a legal battle could end in the tickets favor. The Libertarian Party can not hold another convention, and thus may not be able to amend their by laws or pick another running mate, but there is one loophole in its bylaws that could allow them to change their Vice Presidential Pick. It would ultimately be up to the chair whether utilization of this loophole would stand.

To those planning on writing in Paul:

A Paul write-in will only have an impact if Richard Gilbert of Lawyers for Ron Paul wins his case to have states comply with his understanding of the Voting Rights Act, which is that anti-write-in laws are in violation. If he succeeds in doing this, I will be the first to congratulate his efforts and promote a write-in candidacy.

To those who would vote for a hypothetical JohnsonPaul if it were switched to a real PaulJohnson:

Many states have sore-loser laws meaning that Ron Paul can not run at the top of a ticket because he was in the Republican Primary and lost (albeit through the cheating of the Romney team and other assorted establishment cabals). I personally would favor a Ron Paul Gary Johnson ticket over a Gary Johnson Ron Paul ticket, with good reason. But this would cause several law suits. The ones won would be costly, perhaps counter-productive, and the ones lost would result in loss of ballot access.

To everyone:

There is only until about Monday the 17th to lobby Ron Paul to contact the Libertarian Party about his intentions to join their ticket. This idea has been well-received by high-ranking Libertarian Party officials on the state, national, and campaign levels. They are somewhat indecisive to be sure, and though they will try to make this work if Ron Paul contacts them, they make no promises, and the likelihood of a GJ/RP ticket happening decreases with each passing day.